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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 13, 2006 12:57:01 GMT 7
Anyone interested in forming a sniper squad for our team?
Preferably Sniper/Spotter combination equiped with ghuillie suit, optics and radios.
Pwede rin 3 per squad....
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Post by [S.O.A.R] William on Jun 13, 2006 13:09:46 GMT 7
Masaya ito kapag na implement na. Hehehe!!! Nakakatakot na talaga nun. Basta ka na lang makakaramdam ng "THUK!". Sana ma implement na. Yung mga may sniper rifles labas na. Hehehe!
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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 13, 2006 13:51:15 GMT 7
Yung gusto bili na sniper rifle heheheh
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Post by Mr.S on Jun 13, 2006 14:49:31 GMT 7
Yan ang problema.....hehehe
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Post by Mr.S on Jun 13, 2006 14:53:06 GMT 7
Eh kung regular Squads with a DM (Designated Marksman) kaya? Basically anyone who has a high powered AEG and shoots true can be assigned as one.
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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 13, 2006 15:14:04 GMT 7
Ginagawa na natin yung squad with DM e. Iba parin pag may sniper squad tayo na separate from the DM
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Post by Mr.S on Jun 13, 2006 21:41:12 GMT 7
Kung talagang dedicated sniper team yan eh ayos yan- parang mapapabili yata ako ng KJW M700 niyan! Kaya lang kailangan totally different discipline and mindset ang player at "totoong" (in an airsoft sense, of course) sniper weapons ang gagamitin niya (i.e. Maruzen APS, Tanaka M700, KJW M700 etc.). Anything else would be unfair to both the sniper and the other players. Why? Because:
1. The sniper platform must not only look like a "real" sniper riffle but also perform (in terms of range and accuracy relative to the other "regular" airsoft weapons in the field) like a sniper weapon. IMHO the only way an Airsoft (be it AEG or Gas) weapon can qualify as a dedicated sniper platform is it to have at least 70 meters effective range- any lower and it will defeat the purpose of becoming a dedicated sniper because basically any stage/level 3 upgraded AEG is effective up to 50 meters and beyond. It makes no sense to wear a cumbersome ghuillie suit and lug around a single shot, bolt action rifle if katabi mu din bumabaril sa parehong target eh naka M4 "lang" kasi halos pareho lang ang range niyo. Try watching the Lion Claws III DVD and you will see what I mean. Yung mga naka ghuillie suit na sniper nila eh halos katabi lang ng assault team kasi di naman talaga nagkakalayo ang range ng mga BB nila. It totally defeats yung concept and implementation of a dedicated sniper.
2. It will be absurd to allow a sniper weapon that has full auto capabilities. Its really not difficult to get an airsoft riffle to shoot beyond 70 meters- all you need are a skilled smith and lots of money. I remember sir Fox of Semper mentioning that a team mate of his has an AEG that has an effective range of approximately 100 meters. Sabi niya M170 ang spring na ginagamit. Take note AEG yon with full auto capabilities. I believe sir Sniperace has already tackled this issue in his Airsoft Sniper thread na its unfair to the "hardcore" sniper na nagtitiis siyang mag kasa after each and every shot niya for realism's sake kung yung counter sniper na dadale sa kanya eh may "ratrat" capability yung baril or even semi auto that enables him to fire as fast as he can pull the trigger. Actually pati sa mga regular "grunts" eh di rin fair. Its one thing na ma "one shot one kill" ka mula sa malayo pero its another thing na maratrat ka ng dose-dosenang BBs from a distance almost twice that of your guns maximum range- its not right. Mga sirs don't get me wrong I'm not against high powered upgrades pero I think for the sake of balance and realism eh we should impose limits on how these guns will be used or else mag mumukhang cartoons itong laro nating to and not to mention potentially dangerous.
3. The "Sniper" must be person who is matured and disciplined enough to handle and operate such a powerful weapon. An AEG with "just" 550 FPS can hole a Coke can 20 meters away with a single shot! Now consider the fact that most if not all of the sniper airsoft guns I mentioned above are capable of 600+ FPS and you will see what I mean by "matured and disciplined" (read: mabait!). He must be willing to abide and comply with strict and specific rules of engagement (i.e. no discharging of weapon if target is less than 20 meters away etc).
Just my 2 centavos worth.
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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 14, 2006 6:54:14 GMT 7
Very well said sir. Bili ka na kung ganyan. Don't forget yung M14 it is also used by the US military as a sniper rifle ;D. Pwede na rin natin iconsider siguro yun hehehe
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Post by SNIPERACE on Jun 14, 2006 9:54:44 GMT 7
Mr.Stama ka dyan sir. kung malakas na aeg kalaban lugi sniper kasi kinakasa bawat putok. problema sir some of our opponents have an effective range of 70m daw, thats already like a sniper weapon with full auto potential. with a powerful gun, i think the minimum distance to fire it is 30m or 100ft para wag masaktan kalaban. nasa kanya na lang kung acknowledge nya o isipin nya nalaglagan lang sya dahon hehe @manzi although the m14 is a sniper gun in real steel. sa airsoft sir mas maganda i assault na lang kung di masyado malakas set up. pero yun syo palagay ko twice sniper power na sya hehe
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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 14, 2006 11:11:40 GMT 7
Pag naupgrade na ang m14 ko pwede na sniper hehehe. So let's push thru with the sniper squad sir para sumasaya ang group ;D
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Post by yhanyhan on Jun 14, 2006 11:53:23 GMT 7
ako naman kaya naka full upgrade aeg ko kasi di ako makatakbo. pa single single lang semi sniper. pag malapit lang kalaban sa boots or sa vest ko nalang ini aim.
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Post by Mr.S on Jun 14, 2006 12:15:31 GMT 7
Sarap sanang maging sniper and have the ability to "reach out and touch someone" from a safe distance in a "lethal" (again in airsoft terms, of course) way, kaya lang pag nag-kaiipitan nothing will still beat full automatic fire capabilities to repel the enemy. Its a compromise between the two. Hay naku ang hirap talgang maging adik!
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Post by SNIPERACE on Jun 14, 2006 18:13:49 GMT 7
yhanyhan hehe di tutuo yan sir, mbilis ka nga lumusob e hehe. pero tama yun yo, pag malapit kalaban better aim for the non painful parts of the body. naalala ko kwento nila sakin nung nagumpisa pa lang ko sa airsoft. i think this happened in mega ball in clark. may bumaon daw BB sa noo ng isa player and some of the spectators were hit by a stray BB on the face, dumugo daw, and to think malayo yun spectator. Mr.Shehe oo nga wala katapusan ata tong hobby natin hehehe. i have 2 sniper guns but their full potential have not been fully exploited. sana magka budget na ko hehe.
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Post by [S.O.A.R] EngrManzi on Jun 14, 2006 19:23:22 GMT 7
Ayun naman pala doc e meron ka na 2 sniper gun tapos bibili pa si speedfreek ng m700. Pwede na tayo makabuo. kahit 2 sniper/spotter na squad pwede na tayo bumuo
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Post by SNIPERACE on Jun 14, 2006 21:10:47 GMT 7
oo kaso i haven't gotten their full potential. aayusin ko pa. anyway we can start it na siguro
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